nintendo 3DS CPU/Processor ...wth?

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  1. Letat

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    So i was checking Wiki for something when i noticed they updated their info slots on the 3DS Hardware.
    Edit: so they finally figured out what the CPU is.

    Ifixit says they know what everything is:
    The CPU is a "1048 0H ARM" <- but what the heck is that?
    Well i looked it up, and it is a Version of the ARM11 CPU,
    from what i've read its one of the recent versions that features:


    800MHz to 1 GHz+ in 65G at under 2 mm2
    1 to 4 cores in an SMP cluster with ARM11 MPCore™
    ARM System IP, Physical IP, and available third party design support
    ARM926/AHB to ARM11/AXI migration simplified through AMBA® AHB-AXI bridge fabric
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    Significant performance increase over ARM926EJ-S™ processor in media, OS, and browser performance
    Smartphone-class web browser software and OS support
    Basic support for Adobe Flash (Flash Lite) with ARM11 + L2
    Flash Player 10.1 support requires ARMv7A (Cortex-A class)

    Combine ARM1176 with Mali-200 to provide OpenGL ES 2.0 support for rich UI

    if you know what all that means let us know
    But that flash part is interesting, especially since people want to see youtube in the web browser
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  2. Sylar
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    Good find nice information rep added.
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    Good find, but basicall it really means that if nintendo would use it correctly it will only achieve 500mhz max (as with CPUs, you don't over-clock it (use it to the max) otherwise it will crash and burn)
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    If you overclock a CPU, you NEED a fan, which the 3DS lacks. The original PSP's CPU was underclocked to prevent it from burning.
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    Exactly, so they can't go over about 500mhz (about half of the max ghz amount possible(I know there are 1024 mhz in 1ghz)) which means that even though it could be hotter than with a fan, it is quieter- an advantage for the user, as 3d + distractions isn't a good combination.
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    my god thats crazy
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    1Ghz wouldn't be overclocked, the CPU is designed to run at that speed, so no it wouldn't crash at all.

    PSP's CPU's were downclocked to save battery life, nothing to do with heat. Sony released a firmware update later that clocked the CPU's at the full 333Mhz even for launch units.

    As for the CPU mentioned at the top, it doesn't require a fan to run at full speed, its designed to run in mobile devices. The same kind of CPU's run in Smartphones without fans.
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    Well i looked up the number i found and it turned up as a Arm11 chip model. So if theres a different one either something not right...or maybe thats the rumored 2nd Arm11 chip??? i have no idea... why cant nintendo just say the specs already- always a secret with them.
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    Where did you find the details on that ARM chip? "800MHz to 1 GHz+ in 65G at under 2 mm2" ect
  11. Letat

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    i went to the company site.
    Ill have to retrace my steps to provide the link.

    Here- http://www.arm.com/products/processors/classic/arm11/arm1176.php

    I believe 1176 was the 2nd name for this cpu. Although it might also be the MP version- its more than likely one of those 4 models. But im betting MP since its multi core :/
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    o.o thats pretty strong, and unlike the CPUs sony use, ARM doesn't overheat....like the psp
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    seems like they are learning lessons though: Sony Playstation MOVE (powered by ARM7) Sony NGP (powered by 4xARM9)

    3DS is likely a Custom Nintendo Duel Cored ARM11 with PICA200GPU support. The Clock will be at the lowest (so 800MHz) to save battery.
    Regarding overheating, Arms are designed to have a range of clock frequency's that can be set - at will - between lowest and highest given spec (800MHz-1GHz(+?)) by hardware creators (Nintendo) or if lucky can be set by developers per game (like PSP)

    (lots of ())
  14. Gleeok
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    800MHz!? wow! man that a lot for a dedicated gaming device, which now shows how the power on the iPhone for games only isn't enough, maybe this will make smartasses stop saying they are gaming devices <-<

    800mhz ONLY for games! eat that, iOS.
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    Well its all just random shooting in the guided direction, this was all found from research i gathered from other sites
    it may be right but i'm no expert so take it with a grain of salt.
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    yes it is best to take it with a grain at this moment. its all just guesses because the numbers dont mean anything to anyone but Nintendo and other involved parties. until they release the information we will not know
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    Well, if it does go up to (and over) 800 MHz that is very good news for us.
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    If there is 2 CPUs in it, it has to be dual core.
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    duel core means in the one dropsical cpu

    i beleive they are talking about 2 psychical cpus.
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    I don't think that nintendo would include two cpus as it would be more expensive than a dual core, and it might also generate more heat than a dual core cpu, which would be bad as there are no fans, and you don't wan't to overheat your 3ds, as there could be long-term damage to certain parts (could even damage pixels if it gets hot enough) (sorry if none of this doesn't make any sense)

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